[bdangubic]

not sure this is really true/fair, I think what LLM/agentic code enthusiasts will say is that they have found their way to be effective with it while naysayers will fight the "this is sh*t" battle until they are eventually out of the workforce.

[rootnod3]

So, why do you only opt for that side of the argument? Why not indulge in the side of the naysayers will be able to keep a job after the bubble bursts because they still know how to code by hand? And that exact sentiment is what I was alluding to.

There is maybe some truth to the LLM vibe coding and there maybe is some truth to the “old guard” saying “this is shit”, because this might be shit for very good reasons.

[bdangubic]

I’ve been doing this sht for 30 years and one thing I can tell you I learned - when you see something as “groundbreaking” (controversial?) as llms and see many people telling you how much more productive they are with it there are almost always two camps:

- those fighting HARD to tell you at the top of their lungs “oh this is sht, I tried it and it is baaaad

- those going “hmmm let me see how I can learn etc to get to the point where I am also a lot more productive, if ____ and ____ can learn it so can I…”

You always want to be in the second camp…