[billswift]

If you count the long-term unemployed, the number of discouraged workers has grown. U6, which only counts those who are discouraged and have been unemployed less than a year, hasn't risen, but other unofficial counts that include those unemployed for more than a year has.

In fact, by some unofficial counts, like this one http://www.opednews.com/articles/Real-Unemployment-at-23--by... , total unemployment may be as high as 23% right now. Nor is this the only one, this sight is pretty lefty, two recent essays on the conservative site VDare.com have given similar estimates (22%) for current total unemployment.

[GFKjunior]

I think that number is very reasonable. Zerohedge.com is very libertarian and they also use the 23% number provided by shadowstats.