[xnx]

> it's the amount of stress, time and money that is wasted in car-centered societies

Commuting by train also involves a lot of stress: unexplained and indeterminate delays, filth, crime, dependence on multiple stages (walking, bus, train, walking, etc.)

[bkettle]

It'd be fairly easy to argue that all of these are due to transit being treated as second-class transportation for poor people.

[dzhiurgis]

Some of these and I think you’ve got cause and effect mixed up

[bkettle]

That’s the tough part; it’s self-reinforcing :) both are causes and both are effects, and we’ve got to break the cycle somewhere.

But no, all of them. Low usage causes service cuts, which cause low usage because you can’t rely on transit, causes delays because there isn’t enough service to make up for failures and there isn’t enough investment for grade separation and maintenance, etc

[queenkjuul]

I've never experienced crime on the train and i live in Chicago. The train isn't always clean but I've never found it filthy, either.

I put my headphones on and read on my phone. It's never stressful.