[J_Shelby_J]

> the list of concepts you have to learn at once is basically as long for Python, the quintessential "beginner" language

IMO, Python is great. But deploying Python is more work than learning Rust, oh and the tooling is something that requires continual education: I hear UV is what all the serious python teams are using now. Better learn it or be left behind!

Meanwhile, vanilla Rust has everything you need. I'm glad I understood sunk cost fallacy and got out of Python after many months of coming up to speed with it.

[the__alchemist]

I just watched an experienced programmer on twitch struggle for an hour trying to install a Python-written program using UV! The churn is real, and distributing python programs is still a mess.

[baq]

that's very unfair towards the both uv (uv is great) and the absolutely atrocious state of Python tooling until basically 2025 (slow and brittle, if it was even installed - hello, debian derivatives). uv is the cargo of Python we've been waiting for and it is expected you won't need to learn anything else for a long time.