[ezfe]

The concerns here are valid but the fact the authors label this being about Apple Intelligence and Private Cloud Compute really devalues their credibility in general.

Siri doesn’t have any of the new AI features, the prompts they’re using have been around for years, and private cloud compute has always been about Apple Intelligence generative features.

[nerdjon]

They also end it with trying to sell their service around AI which further devalues it, and even trying to give it a name like "AppleStorm".

I think some of the points are valid, but I think the over emphasis on Siri vs Private Cloud is massively overblown. That to me is just the nature of a transition like this and eventually more if Siri will likely fall under "Apple Intelligence" since it makes sense that they would have a single platform on the backend.

Then there is this header:

> "End-to-End Encryption? I’m Not Sure"

Well.. it is still end to end encrypted. Nothing about using Siri to dictate it changes that since you know... your on one of the ends. It is like saying that me taking a screenshot of the conversation somehow broke E2E.

That isn't to say that the concern here is not valid, but there are so many examples of things being twisted and manipulated to get you to use their product that I have a hard time really understanding what is an issue and what isn't.

Like ok you made an app using SiriKit using Apple's recommended settings (which may be recommended for a reason). But do you have the ability to have them not go to apple's servers if you configure it a certain way... it seems the author just ended with "Well it happens when I made this app" and never looked further.

[Citizen8396]

They are arguing in bad faith. They clearly know how to disable the relevant subset of these features. They don't do this upfront because they would have nothing to write about otherwise.

As a user, you can configure these settings in the UI. You can use the defaults command. They can be configured using a configuration profile/MDM. You could block the domains based on their associated feature, which are publicly documented by Apple. [1]

It's like complaining about Windows telemetry without bothering to configure the registry (or even open the settings menu).

[1] https://support.apple.com/en-us/101555

[yndoendo]

Smartphone OS manufactures like Apple and Google do not allow strong secure features to black domain or IP addresses. There are attempts at cheep hacks to use VN or accessibility work a rounds but they can be overwritten by the OS and they prevent use a firewall and VPN at the same time.

[Citizen8396]

I have used encrypted DNS profiles on iOS to block them at the resolver level. However, the correct thing to do is to disable the feature in a configuration profile. You can also block them on macOS using Little Snitch or similar.

No, you sometimes can't use two apps on iOS that attempt to configure DNS and a "VPN" for local filtering purposes at the same time (the latter is often a glorified hosts list).

You absolutely can use encrypted DNS and/or a VPN (or Private Relay). None of these have bearing on using an application firewall or pf on macOS.

[isodev]

I think people are unaware of the difference between Apple Intelligence and Siri - they even have the same colour glow now. Also, can you always tell if it's Siri or Apple Intelligence handling a request?

The only privacy screen on macOS and iOS is during oob or after OS updates, and it does not make a distinction. As the OP post highlights, there is no way to avoid said telemetry from being sent or configure it in Settings. So all this is not only shady but quite illegal.

[ezfe]

Apple Intelligence currently handles no requests. ChatGPT handles some, but asks for confirmation first with the default settings.