[bastard_op]

Apple already slurps everything you do with their "privacy proxy" services, so what more risk do you want? Apple defaults for forwarding all dns and web pages via their proxies, they just can't seem to figure out what to do with it.

[Citizen8396]

It's unclear what you're referring to. Their DNS (outside of Safari private browsing) and Private Relay aren't enabled by default. The latter is set up using blind signatures and oblivious DNS, so they can't figure out what it is (much less what to do with it). You're free to disable both and let your ISP do whatever they want with your browsing habits.

[gruez]

If you're talking about apple private relay, they're only proxying your packets, not intercepting any TLS connections. Therefore it's a bit misleading to characterize that as "Apple already slurps everything you do".

[staplers]

If apple can figure out how to carve out a privacy/individual-focused ai model that avoids the classic centralized data-harvest/training they could runaway with a large portion of the market.

So many people understand the benefits ai can bring to our lives with automations, search, etc but so many are also aware of the dangers lurking beneath the surface and causes anti-ai sentiment (for good reason).

They can be mutually exclusive but aren't generally.

[astrange]

All anti-AI sentiment I've seen on the internet is based on fears it'll take their jobs and comes in the form of almost-entirely-fake concerns about it supposedly using up all our water. Most people don't care about privacy very much.

[theshrike79]

At some point it became normalised to post your face, real name and home address online multiple times a day.

Privacy, for most people, is already gone

[mingus88]

Do you really think so?

There have been privacy focused alternatives to Gmail since Gmail was invented and it didn’t stop everyone from letting Google index every single thing they sent or received.

Time and time again we have seen privacy nightmare products and services run away with the market. I just don’t think that people vote with their wallets if they even care at all

[xp84]

> they just can't seem to figure out what to do with it.

That's the funny thing about Siri. It has since Day 1 insisted on being exclusively online-only, processing on the server - even for commands that the pre-Siri Voice Control could do fully locally on an iPhone 3Gs such as "Call Steve" or "Turn Wi-Fi on"

That decision always surprised me, and it's surprising that Siri's never improved given that unlike Apple Intelligence it is not limited to on-device nor to PCC.

For all the scorn directed lately at the "Apple Intelligence" team for not shipping anything they promised, I have to hand it to JG's team for at least building a local processing capability plus having PCC instead of just one server-side thing and a "Trust Me Bro" like Siri.

If we're lucky, they'll build new Siri stuff from scratch using local + PCC, and finally push the old Siri stuff into the scrapyard where it belongs.

[MarioMan]

Siri has supported an offline subset of commands since iOS 15 came out in 2021.

I just tested this with Wi-Fi and cellular data disabled. Calling someone works perfectly and asking to turn Wi-Fi on presents the relevant toggle.

[xp84]

Sorry, so it was only 11 years for them to restore the functionality that Siri in effect "took away" in 2010.

The only way to get it back for those 11 years was to disable Siri entirely, meaning you had to be "cloud dependent" or stick to that unchanging set of offline-only features exclusively for a decade. Not a lot for the Siri team to be proud of there.