Yeah and his point is that's never going to happen lol. People bring up the 100% point a lot and it's a bit silly because a movie with a significant number of ratings is never going to have that kind of distribution.
That's why it's always a hypothetical never backed with actual examples. It's one of those things that sounds plausible until you look at the numbers. Movies close to 100% have pretty high average scores and Movies with majority 3/5's are nowhere near 100%.
Yeah 100% for RT doesn't mean 10/10, but that's it.
It’s just not true in practice: it’s pretty typical to find films with high rotten tomatoes scores and not very high metacritic scores; rotten tomatoes scores are pretty much useless unless you are not very discerning.
Examples:sovereign, how to make a million…, count of monte cristo, etc
Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic are not the same site and have different audiences. Even the most popular movies will barely scrap 60 reviewers on Metacritic.
Comparing them directly is meaningless. Unfortunately they removed the average score for critics percentage but it's still there for the audience percentage.
You're also just wrong. Those movies, especially the last two have high Metacritic scores.
> Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic are not the same site and have different audiences.
Yes we are talking about aggregating critic reviews. It's true if you like what the mass audience likes you'll be fine with any kind of crude measure like rotten tomatoes (although you'll still be better off with IMDB scores).
> Even the most popular movies will barely scrap 60 reviewers on Metacritic.
If you are talking about critic reviews there really aren't that many movie critics and you don't need that many. If you are talking about user reviews that isn't what the site is geared for (and not what the users of the site want either, just go to IMDB).
> You're also just wrong. Those movies, especially the last two have high Metacritic scores.
75 is not a high metacritic score, not just in absolute terms, but particularly not relative to the (ridiculous) 97% of rotten tomatoes.
If you only want to watch a few movies a year (and presumably want them to be the "best") Metacritic is the only useful site (with the provisos that someone else posted about political films and modulating for your own personal preferences).
>If you are talking about critic reviews there really aren't that many movie critics and you don't need that many.
RT still amasses a few hundred critics, and yes it matters statistically because scores will almost certainly decrease (or at the least be unstable) with more reviews until a statically significant threshold. Below hundred isn't it and a score based on 10 ratings is nigh useless.
>75 is not a high metacritic score, not just in absolute terms, but particularly not relative to the (ridiculous) 97% of rotten tomatoes.
Yes it's a high score. Have you taken a look at what kind of range best picture nominees fall at ? 75 is a high score. We've already established a 97% doesn't mean 9.7/10. Doesn't mean your contrived examples are a reality. I'm sure you can do arithmetic and see what a 3/5 falls to over 10.
> RT still amasses a few hundred critics, and yes it matters statistically because scores will almost certainly decrease (or at the least be unstable) with more reviews until a statically significant threshold.
There aren't a hundred critics worth counting, it's just garbage in garbage out; I don't want every-person-with-a-substack's review, I want the dozen or so top film critics.
> Below hundred isn't it and a score based on 10 ratings is nigh useless.
It really isn't. Metacritic top movies for each year are indicative of the "quality" movies, as you would expect the average of the top 10 movie critics to be.
> Yes it's a high score. Have you taken a look at what kind of range best picture nominees fall at ? 75 is a high score.
No, for this year alone (which is only part way through) there are 68 movies with a score above 75 on Metacritic. If you were watching movies according to score alone that mean you would have to watch more than 8 movies a month just to get to those films (and that's if you refuse to watch movies from any other year).
> We've already established a 97% doesn't mean 9.7/10
We've established that the number is not very useful, far less useful than a 9.7/10 type score is.
Look no one is going to stop you from using Rotten Tomatoes if it meets your needs. For me and many other people who don't have time or desire to watch films below a certain quality we need an actual estimate of a quality score, which Rotten Tomatoes doesn't provide and Metacritic does.
I've confirmed this is false using the clapper-massive-rotten-tomatoes dataset on Kaggle which contains reviews up to 2023 (so note the scores are different than current scores): there are in fact many movies that have high hot-or-not scores but are clustered near the 6/10 threshold among top 10% of movies according to number of reviews: e.g. The Peanuts Movie, The Good Lie, Gimme Danger, Dream Horse, etc. (filtering on reviews with numeric scores)
These are all movies with (at the time) >90% "approval" rating but average score about 7/10 with most reviews around the 6/10 threshold and tapering down at 7/10,8/10 (as opposed to being multi-modal/split-opinion, e.g. many at 6/10 and many also at 10/10).
That's why it's always a hypothetical never backed with actual examples. It's one of those things that sounds plausible until you look at the numbers. Movies close to 100% have pretty high average scores and Movies with majority 3/5's are nowhere near 100%.
Yeah 100% for RT doesn't mean 10/10, but that's it.