[pavel_lishin]

Notion works great for me as a store of WYSIWYG documents that I can drag around in a hierarchical set of pages. This means that I can easily use it on my phone, on the go.

But I don't use any of its Database functionality, or any of the other 90% of its features.

[echelon]

Notion needs to fear all of the people using (and loving) Obsidian at home that want to use it for work.

Notion is going to have a very hard time turning corporate Notion users into at-home/personal Notion users. Obsidian has already won this use case with one of the most rock-solid products ever.

Now Obsidian gets to fight the battle for corporate on their terms. And their tool is already developer friendly.

There are a million Obsidian champions, and there's probably a dozen of them in your org. I think Notion should be shaking in their boots right about now.

If Obsidian can get their organization management and syncing/backup strategy right, and if they make their product interface well with distributed git automations, Obsidian is going to take over so many new workflows. Not just knowledge bases, but mdbook -> webpage workflows, documentation, customer-facing pages, everything.

Notion makes product managers smile. Obsidian makes developers and product managers smile.

[pavel_lishin]

> Notion is going to have a very hard time turning corporate Notion users into at-home/personal Notion users. Obsidian has already won this use case with one of the most rock-solid products ever.

I don't think that's true; my (admittedly limited) understanding of Obsidian is that it strongly appeals to the type of person who reads HN; they're not going to appeal to someone who wants a WYSIWYG editor that they don't have to think about manually syncing with anything.

Obsidian makes developers smile, but it won't make sales people, customer service people, or executives smile unless they're already inclined to.