[entropi]

While it is completely absurd, I don't see why it would be non-enforceable. They can very well enforce it.

Here is one way to do it: they could take a page out of google's Web Environment Integrity proposal and make it illegal to serve any page within Germany unless the integrity is proven. Done. VPNs are problematic? Ban them. Seems very enforceable to me.

Why do you think it is un-enforceable?

[tux3]

Web Environment Integrity was so heavily criticized at the time that it made Google itself backtrack. The same Google that forged ahead with Manifest V3. There is no realistic way the German government could get websites to implement an even worse version of that.

The whole Web would simply become incompatible with Germany. So this would be trivial to bypass on a technical level, and unacceptable on a social level. Completely unenforceable indeed.

[entropi]

> Web Environment Integrity was so heavily criticized at the time that it made Google itself backtrack. The same Google that forged ahead with Manifest V3. There is no realistic way the German government could get websites to implement an even worse version of that.

I don't think this is a good comparison, though. Google cannot force people to use WEI -yet-. The government can.

>The whole Web would simply become incompatible with Germany.

I think the ad-supported web would just LOVE this idea and would become compatible with Germany ASAP.

> So this would be trivial to bypass on a technical level

I don't think so. Don't get me wrong, there will always be a way for the tech-savvy. But all the trivial ways can very well be blocked.

> unacceptable on a social level

In Germany, you cannot install security cameras in a building unless all the owners agree, on grounds of privacy. But the ISPs keep all of your traffic logs, law firms get these logs, and mass-send cease-and-desist letters using automated systems. This is also not particularly acceptable, but it happens everyday and looks like it is very enforceable.

Lets not be naive and think this is unenforceable on the grounds of being "socially unacceptable".

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> But the ISPs keep all of your traffic logs,

only for some short time allowed by the law

> law firms get these logs,

Not it you have them for law enforcement, then it's illegal to give them to someone else.

[entropi]

Yes, but the same logic doesn't fly for basically any other topic, since German public is very sensitive about their privacy. We need to protect the right to privacy at all costs. Unless if its for copyright enforcement. If it is for copyright enforcement purposes, timeouts and pinky promises about not sharing my ID-associated private data with anyone other than for law enforcement purposes is all we need...