[chrismustcode]

I agree it should be across the spectrum where people have the same rights to privacy.

> those who can afford to make the government look the other way and those that can't.

> Congratulations to Apple on lobbying for its own money. Very noble.

But what’s your implication here, that Apple shouldn’t have fought it?

[consp]

Probably that it should be a generalization and apple should have fought for that and not apply just to one particular operator.

[hermannj314]

As far as I know, the blue/green mentality is a cultural issue for Apple. They would be fine if Android users had their data read by the government, because that injustice is a market differentiator for them they can then sell.

I'm not saying they shouldn't lobby for what they believe in, but Apple always stops short of making the world a better place and seems to care only if their walled garden is secure.

[thewebguyd]

> Apple always stops short of making the world a better place and seems to care only if their walled garden is secure.

succinctly summed up why I dislike Apple (despite using their products). If you value privacy (against third parties), E2EE, and the tight device coupling then Apple is literally the only choice unless you have the time, knowledge and desire to piecemeal together your own solutions and that really sucks. I have permanent cognitive dissonance because I won't give up the small quality of life features Apple gives me, but I also don't have the time nor skill to replicate their whole ecosystem with Linux, GrapheneOS, writing BLE scripts for watch unlock, fussing with KDE connect for universal clipboard, hosting my own nextcloud instance, etc.

I wish there was another choice of mobile + accessories that was both privacy respecting and actively using open standards for the betterment of all, not just their own profits.

[aspenmayer]

> I wish there was another choice of mobile + accessories that was both privacy respecting and actively using open standards for the betterment of all, not just their own profits.

That's the rub. If you look at Android handset financials, there's almost no money in making Android phones unless the company making them is Samsung, and only certain models sell. Where are all of these profits going to come from?

I wonder if you'd get farther with a USB SIM adapter under desktop Linux in that regard. I think you'd be hard pressed to end up where you want to in anything more portable than a laptop, since phones themselves are designed to be glorified containers for your mobile ad ID.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advertising_ID

[arccy]

s/secure/profitable/