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I do not think mental illness is the cause of people posting wrong remarks, but when they post remarks that strike me as particularly bizarre, as yours have here, I think consideration of mental illness itself is worthwhile, productive and interesting. I have been very kind from the start, when I informed you that you were making yourself look bad. Being curious about what causes you to persist in such behavior is also a form of kindness, especially when such curiosity leads to a recommendation of professional help, although those who need help are not always willing to get it. I will point out that you were not interested in debating in good faith, as your sole purpose is to make the point that people should treat buffer bloat as a theoretical issue that does not actually affect people, with the explanation for every incident of buffer bloat always being something else. Everything you wrote has been consistent with that. You even applied a pattern of overanalysis to the discussion that can be used to claim the contrary to anything. Your apparent need to deny the existence of a well known issue is bizarre. You would be much happier right now if you had dropped the subject. By the way, peering links between the greater China area and the rest of the world are notoriously bad due to limited capacity. China in particular has three tier 1 networks that all refuse to upgrade peering links between each other in a timely manner, and the peering links between them and the rest of the world are often just as bad as the peering links inside of China. In order to get a decent connection there in 2016, I had to forcibly do my own routing through VMs in data centers in Shanghai, Tokyo and others to control the links used, after much trial and error, yet there were still periods where the links were horrendous and surprisingly, the issue was not always exclusive to China according to my testing between VMs on various data centers. I was visiting family for a month, yet needed a decent connection to work remotely, so I spent an entire week non-stop studying the connectivity and experimenting with ways of improving my VPN connectivity. I also had proof that the GFW was not where problems occurred, since my tcpdump pcap files taken at VMs in Shanghai and Tokyo showed the packets traversing the GFW. I also had reproduced similar performance issues using VMs in other countries, such as Japan and Singapore, where there is no GFW, as part of attempts to identify paths over which I could forcibly route my traffic via iptables rules. It is obvious to me that you will continue to deny bufferbloat was a problem and instead blame something else, yet as others have already explained to you, bufferbloat makes problems worse. After a delay of a few hundred ms, my VoIP session did not care if the packets were delivered or not, since at that point, the packets were useless, yet enormous buffers would delay them and other traffic well past a sane expiry instead of dropping it, to the detriment of all trying to use the peering links. |
It has nothing to do with the topic, doesn't add substantive discussion to the topic? The bizarre part is you keep bringing up mental illness without actually specifying one. You should just admit to yourself that you use it to skirt the rules, condescend and gatekeep. Please read the HN guidelines and keep that kind of rhetoric to other social platform mediums where that is condoned.
I should point out that you were not interested in debating in good faith, as your sole purpose is to make the point that people should treat buffer bloat as a theoretical issue that does not actually affect people
I've been debating in good faith, but when you repeatedly misinterpret what I'm saying and continue to argue for an imagined argument, I give up.
I should point out that you were not interested in debating in good faith, as your sole purpose is to make the point that people should treat buffer bloat as a theoretical issue that does not actually affect people, with the explanation for every incident of buffer bloat always being something else as if buffer bloat were not a factor. You were applying a pattern of overanalysis to the discussion that can be used to claim the contrary to anything. I really do not understand your apparent need to deny the existence of a well known issue, but it is bizarre in a bad way. You would be much happier right now if you had dropped the subject.
I'm actually fine; I just don't take well to pointless tangents, ad hominems, and curmudgeon behaviour which is really all your doing. It took you several posts to get to the content of what I was asking. As for overanalysis; is it though? A lot of people do not know how to analyse a problem in the first place, ignore variables, and jump to conclusions due to confirmation bias. You're taking this personally as you think I'm underestimating your ability to diagnose the problem, but that's not what I'm getting at and is central to my argument, there is a variety of problems on the Internet and it is hard to actually distill and get an accurate diagnosis. Experiencing latency or jitter is a tale old as time; and I think the overarching argument I've been pointed out is that we've improved Internet infrastructure for the most part that bufferbloat just isn't relevant (as it is hard to manifest and trigger), yet still gets hyped as an issue. You even conceded this point earlier.
It is obvious to me that you will deny bufferbloat was a problem and instead blame the peering links
I didn't deny it, I just said that you don't have enough information to argue its case, especially with the lofty argument that it is occurring at the ISP as opposed to your CPE. Let alone your ISP in China which immediately raises red flags with all the other issues that are at play.
Anyways, I'm kind of done, you're imagining a villain you must slay, resorted to gatekeeping, ad hominems, pointless tangents, etc. I'll leave you to it.