[defrost]

The west and the east are still gutting African resources to this day via a bunch of carrots and sticks that rarely include direct bombing by a Western country or China.

Plenty of western mercenary groups supporting traditional land takeover by corporations, funding radical groups to destabilize effective governments forming or growing in strength is still ongoing.

[extraisland]

Much of this is often hidden from the public. This argument that people should be somehow punished for actions of others that they are unaware of and have very little power over is insane IMO.

[defrost]

I doubt few are arguing that various Africans should be punished by losing their traditional farming land of many generations because of the iceberg lettuce consuming actions of others they are unaware of.

None the less it continues to happen.

[extraisland]

They are not talking about the Africans. They are talking about the British.

Immigration has had many negative effects on social cohesion in the UK. That is just an unfortunate fact. That is obvious if you have lived in poorer areas of some the cities in the UK.

When this subject is normally broached on TV channels such as the BBC. The argument often put forth is that we should accept large amounts of immigration because of the the British Empire and the wars in the Middle-East. It is often framed as if we should accept it as a form of punishment.

[crikeykangaroo]

Well, I wouldn't say punishment is exactly fair... But your government did not pay for reparations either, while at the same time, your government does hold other countries for doing so in their own wars (validly so).

[extraisland]

> Well, I wouldn't say punishment is exactly fair

That is how many of the left talk about it. Some are more coy than others, but nonetheless that is the theme.

I certainly don't care for it and I certainly doesn't endear me to anyone making the argument.

> But your government did not pay for reparations either, while at the same time, your government does hold other countries for doing so in their own wars (validly so).

So? The vast majority of the people in country had nothing to do with those events.

[crikeykangaroo]

Well... Too bad the government is (supposedly?) democratically elected by its people? Such actions may have consequences.

[churchill]

I hear some Brits & immigrants raise that argument and it's the most retarded thing I've ever heard. Can you imagine seeing yourself as a punishment to be inflicted upon someone else?