[youngtaff]

This!

They also miss the fact that even with an initcwnd of 10 the TLS negotiation isn’t going to consume it so the window starts growing long before content is actually sent.

Plus there’s no discussion of things like packet pacing

[toast0]

TLS without 0-rtt gets you one round trip of not too many packets, maybe 4 unless your certificates are really large. That helps your initial window for content, but not by a whole lot.

[pas]

can you please explain how packet pacing factors into this?

[youngtaff]

I'd start with a read of this https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-welzl-iccrg-pacing-00....