[coldtea]

This goes both ways (old to young and reverse), but family goes before politics. You don't cut out, or disown, or stop visiting, or badmouth family because you disagree with their politics...

If you do so, you were a shitty relative to begin with.

[RangerScience]

AFAIK, you cut off shitty relatives…

…and you usually find out they’re shitty because of how they handle (or don’t) “political” conversations.

Pro tip: You don’t get to decide for someone else what’s “just” politics. If someone else says it’s important, while you’re interacting with them, it’s important.

[coldtea]

>Pro tip: You don’t get to decide for someone else what’s “just” politics. If someone else says it’s important, while you’re interacting with them, it’s important.

It's rarely, if ever, important to any concerned party's day to day life. It's bullshit partisanship instilled into idiotic brains by the media and social media.

Just because they say it's important, doesn't make it so.

[RangerScience]

Eh. While that might be true in the course of say, governance - where IMO it’s important and worthwhile to use scientific methodology (statistics, etc) to establish “importance” -

…your family around the notional holiday dinner table? The personal is what’s important, kinda by definition. The point is the subjective and emotional.

[generj]

It depends, if the political take is sufficiently shitty it’s a betrayal of your morals, friends etc to continue to associate with your family spouting it.

Typically that has to be some extreme form of bigotry people won’t let go of after repeated coaching. Extreme bigotry or conspiracy thinking is arguably a form of abuse directed at other family members and it’s 100% ok to cut people off for being abusive.

[Ar-Curunir]

Where does it stop? What if your relatives support, eg, racist policies? What if they support genocide? How personal does it have to be?

What if you’re dating a person of another race, and your relatives support keeps making racist comments to you, even after you try to explain why that’s not okay?

[coldtea]

>Where does it stop? What if your relatives support, eg, racist policies? What if they support genocide? How personal does it have to be?

Unless they act on them, they can support anything they like, it means less than them supporting some team or MCU fandom

[Ar-Curunir]

What? Your relative Being a racist is less important to you than them supporting the opposing team?

[stouset]

No, sorry. Nazi family members come last. Family members with no respect for the rights and freedoms of others and who encourage and support inhumane treatment of others don’t get a free pass.

[coldtea]

Unless your family members are card carrying members of the Nazi party, "Nazi" is just a codeword for "disagree with them" just as "no respect for the rights and freedoms of others" is the same.

[gruturo]

That is either a very naive take, or a dishonest one. You don't need an actual nazi party issuing member cards to recognize someone strongly aligned with the values, opinion and realities of the WW2 (and previous decade) nazi party as such.

By all means keep trolling or worse if it makes your day, hide behind pedantry if it's any help, but you're fooling very, very few people.

[stouset]

Sorry, but absolutely the fuck not.

If someone votes for and cheers on the sending of specific ethnic groups to concentration camps, the removal of rights and freedoms for political opponents, and the advancement of authoritarianism, they are Nazis.

We are way beyond Godwin’s Law at this point and it’s time to recognize and acknowledge that fact.

[spauldo]

I've never cut off a relative for their politics, but I've cut off relatives because they wouldn't shut up about their politics.

Talk to me about all the gardening you're doing after retirement, about your new motorcycle, about the fishing this year, hell talk to me about your favorite sports team. I'll listen and interact, even if I'm not particularly interested in those things. Tell me for the 500th time about how Biden was a commie and I'll just eat Thanksgiving with my in-laws.