[diggan]

> Humans never truly produce anything; they only generate various forms of waste

What a sad way of viewing huge fields of creative expressions. Surely, a person sitting on a chair in a room improvising a song with a guitar is producing something not considered "waste"?

[howtofly]

It's all about human technology, which enables massive resource consumption.

I should really say humans never truly produce anything in the realm of technology industry.

[diggan]

But that's clearly not true for every technology. Photoshop, Blender and similar creative programs are "technology", and arguably they aren't as resource-intensive as the current generative AI hype, yet humans used those to create things I personally wouldn't consider "waste".

[howtofly]

The real issue is determining how much non-renewable resource consumption is justified for these "valuable" things? Note that we are always inclined to value ourselves too much.

I agree the things you mentioned are valuable in the very common sense and I deliberately assign them no value to the avoid the above issue.