[sneak]

> Are countries with access to free health care using slavery to keep hospitals and clinics running?

No, robbery. They’re paid for with tax revenues, which are collected without consent. Taking of someone’s money without consent has a name.

Have you ever stopped to consider why class mobility is much much less common in Europe than in the USA?

[331c8c71]

> Have you ever stopped to consider why class mobility is much much less common in Europe than in the USA?

My understanding is that your info is seriously out of date. It might have been the case in the distant past but not the case anymore.

https://news.yale.edu/2025/02/20/tracking-decline-social-mob...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Social_Mobility_Index

[Rexxar]

> Have you ever stopped to consider why class mobility is much much less common in Europe than in the USA?

It's a common idea but each time you try to measure social mobility, you find a lot of European countries ahead of USA.

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Social_Mobility_Index

- https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jun/15/social-mobil...

[motorest]

> Have you ever stopped to consider why class mobility is much much less common in Europe than in the USA?

Which class mobility is this that you speak of? The one that forces the average US citizens to be a paycheck away from homelessness? Or is it the one where you are a medical emergency away from filing bankruptcy?

Have you stopped to wonder how some European countries report higher median household incomes than the US?

But by any means continue to believe your average US citizen is a temporarily embarrassed billionaire, just waiting for the right opportunity to benefit from your social mobility.

In the meantime, also keep in mind that mobility also reflects how easy it is to move down a few pegs. Let that sink in.

[juniperus]

the economic situation in Europe is much more dire than the US...

[motorest]

> the economic situation in Europe is much more dire than the US...

Is it, though? The US reports by far the highest levels of lifetime literal homelessness, which is three times greater than in countries like Germany. Homeless people on Europe aren't denied access to free healthcare, primary or even tertiary.

Why do you think the US, in spite of it's GDP, features so low in rankings such as human development index or quality of life?

[andrepd]

Yet people live better. Goes to show you shouldn't optimise for crude, raw GDP as an end in itself, only as a means for your true end: health, quality of life, freedom, etc.

[juniperus]

In many of the metrics, yeah. But Americans can afford larger houses and more stuff essentially, which isn't necessarily a good replacement for general quality of life things.

[motorest]

> In many of the metrics, yeah. But Americans can afford larger houses and more stuff essentially, which isn't necessarily a good replacement for general quality of life things.

I think this is the sort of red herring that prevents the average US citizen from realizing how screwed over they are. Again, the median household income in the US is lower than in some European countries. On top of this, the US provides virtually no social safety net or even socialized services to it's population.

The fact that the average US citizen is a paycheck away from homelessness and the US ranks so low in human development index should be a wake-up call.

[suddenlybananas]

Several US states have the life expectancy of Bangladesh.

[andrepd]

>Have you ever stopped to consider why class mobility is much much less common in Europe than in the USA?

This is not true, it was true historically, but not since WWII. Read Piketty.