[rayiner]

> Many of those on visas are biased toward those from their own cultural heritage as well.

It’s not even “bias.” It’s an odd form of white supremacy that views whites as above having material interests of their own. “It’s okay to be unfair to white people because they don’t need it like we do.”

I make the clarification because I’ve noticed it even among people who don’t have in-group bias. My mom quite dislikes other Bangladeshis, but only slowly realized over 30 years of living here that there are white-majority parts of the country with real economic challenges.

[jmspring]

I'm having a problem understanding are you saying it's white supremacy or parallel / similar too such?

If its the former, I am not sure what you are trying to convey.

For myself - seasoned engineer, european pursuasion, I want to work with people that are open and collaborative. I've worked with backgrounds like mine I would never work with again.

I do have an issue with employers find an excuse to bias towards the lower cost labor pool that is H1s. And when teams get saturated that way, it perpetuates the same.

These days, I have found large companies with a tech component and smaller companies within tech centers are more diverse/inclusive (as you will) than the FAANG type companies.

[rayiner]

> I'm having a problem understanding are you saying it's white supremacy or parallel / similar too such?

It’s hard to articulate because it’s more an absence of thought. Imagine robots run the world and tell humans what to do. You wouldn’t really think about the robots, and you wouldn’t think about their material interests. That’s kind of like how many desis view white people.

For example, consider the domination of the motel industry by Gujrati Patels: https://madrascourier.com/insight/how-gujarati-patels-took-o.... I suspect they don’t think of themselves as being “biased” by favoring other Gujratis. They don’t think about fairness to white people because why would you think about fairness towards your robot overlords?

[nilespotter]

> It’s an odd form of white supremacy that views whites as above having material interests of their own.

This is also an interesting way to explain the self-immolating Whites, which nowadays is most of us. Any sort of White group identity or collective interest is absolute heresy which must be opposed, while all things in the collective interest of non-Whites must be celebrated, encouraged, and helped along at our own expense. There's a certain paternalistic arrogance to it, an ethnocentric assumption that other races can't get on without us. And it's much more common and pervasive than the caricature of the like shaved head neo-Nazi we are all expected to imagine exists in large numbers, somewhere.

[rayiner]

Absolutely. One time, I was explaining to this lady about immigration: that, if the shoe were on the other foot, folks from Bangladesh would’ve shut down the border long ago. She hissed at me: “well, we’re not Bangladesh!” White Americans are supposed to be above having normal human attachments to soil, kin, and clan.

[la64710]

Bangladesh border is quite open with lot of influx from refugees in Myanmar - of course some people there too don’t like it .

[ryandv]

That's right. You see this aspect of the situation clearly.

[jmspring]

Ok, I think what you are meaning is a certain cultural sect / group / region dominating. White supremacists, for me is a different meaning because, history. So I think I understand the cultural comparison.

If I am understanding right, you are not wrong. A group gets a manager of a certain cultural background (visa or not), the team hiring practice trends that way. Companies do not question this...They should.

Diversity in age, culture, ethnic background and experience build a better team.

The unfortunate thing is there are a few cultures that benefit from H1 visas (most prevalent) and propagate their leanings over being open.

American companies should be doing more to hire non-H1s, there is not a talent shortage, but they would rather not pay that additional percentage.