[ripjaygn]

That wasn't a clean bill, it had a bunch of other stuff in it, 86 pages long.

Democrats could've passed a bill that only included the repeal of the R&D changes, which they didn't coz they didn't want to.

Edit: rate limited coz of politically motivated downvotes, I am done here.

[tomhow]

> Edit: rate limited coz of politically motivated downvotes, I am done here.

This is not how HN works. I posted an explanation here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44920494.

[Terr_]

> Democrats could've

This feels like the "only Democrats have agency" story, where Republicans are somehow never to blame because they're just toddlers or forces of nature, while Democrats are always at fault because they didn't stop the Republicans from burning the house down or clean up all the poop from the carpets or whatever, in an endless and impossible race.

By your logic, Republicans didn't fix it because they didn't want to either! Why was that? Partisan vengeance against California?

> That wasn't a clean bill

Well, that one happens to be a bill from a Republican, I was just looking for ones that affected that tax-provision.

In any case, did you check out the table-of-contents, and not just the page-length? It may not be as minimal-as-possible, but it's all tax-related stuff.

[ivewonyoung]

> This feels like the "only Democrats have agency" story

Because only Democrats had agency when the law took effect? The president can veto any bill. Democrats passed two bills in 2021 and 2022 with zero Republican votes, zero, they could've easily included the repeal in those bills if they wanted to. They didn't coz they didn't want to, their stated policy is to raise taxes on corporations, how is this even debatable? Meanwhile the Republicans at that time had no agency. Once they got agency, they repealed it immediately, with zero Democrat votes.

Would you similarly blame the Democrats for all voting against the repeal as part of the BBB that just passed? You wouldn't and your reason would be "but the BBB contained a lot of other things apart from this repeal that the dems didn't like". Why won't you apply the same logic to the non-clean bill you brought up?

> By your logic, Republicans didn't fix it because they didn't want to either! Why was that? Partisan vengeance against California?

Huh, they fixed it immediately after coming to power. They couldn't fix it before the BBB because it needed to go in reconciliation because the dems don't suppor the repeal. They didn't fix it in 2019 because it wasn't even in effect yet and IIRC dems had the house. So how does the partisan vengeance allegation even make any sense?

[Terr_]

> because the dems don't suppor the repeal.

What evidence led you to that conclusion? It feels like there's some Fundamental Attribution Error [1] going on here, where Republicans are getting a free-pass for the pain they created "because there were circumstances" (which is true) but somehow Democrats failing to remove the pain is automatically "because they wanted it that way."

I already shared some opposing evidence, that Republican-sponsored Senate bill with a repeal in it that still garnered strong (but not unanimous) Democratic support.

Here's another: Section-174 relief was originally included in the 2021 "Build Back Better" act, but--due to those tight partisan vote margins--a particular conservative-leaning Democrat (who later left the party!) decided to prevent it [0]:

> With the Build Back Better Act (BBBA) being all but dead in the Senate after Joe Manchin’s unexpected rejection of the bill, concerns remain high regarding the future of Section 174 of the Internal Revenue Code. [...] But, with Senator Manchin’s refusal to support the BBBA, the legislation is now on its last breath, although the Biden administration remains optimistic that there is a chance of getting a modified version of the bill passed.

[0] https://www.claconnect.com/en/resources/blogs/uncertainty-co...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error

[ivewonyoung]

> What evidence led you to that conclusion?

They controlled the Senate and the Presidency, and never allowed a clean bill(one introduced by Marco Rubio which was killed in the Dem controlled Senate committee) that restored the exception to come to vote. The Republicans came to power and immediately restored it, with zero Democrat votes.

[blackguardx]

86 pages is not long by today's standards. Also, when was the last "clean bill" passed?

[lovich]

I was under the impression that big bills are more beautiful and thus preferred