| > You’re analysing things in a vacuum, there are historical and contemporary examples of public protest, pressure campaigns and civil disobedience leading to policy change, and you’re arguing they’re what, all CIA plants or impossible? If not, please make your point clearer. I am not analysing things in a vaccum. I gave you some reasons why I don't believe these things are productive today. One of those is an example from my own personal experience of being at a protest that literally had 1000s of people there. I don't believe that all of it was CIA plants and never said that. I explained how street movements are infiltrated by malign actors and how some intelligence agencies have used these techniques. > Have you any proof that these rent a mob thing exists? You used “maybe part”... Please find a specific service for renting a mob, not a single individual or small group. Or proof that this service exists, because this is an awfully convenient way to bend the narrative to your side “they were all faking it” is almost never a valid hypothesis. It is well documented. Just not commonly known. TBH you could have looked this up yourself. It isn't really any different than hiring extras for a TV/Movie production (as I previously stated). https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/rent-a-crowd.asp Companies and political parties have been doing it for quite a while. e.g. https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-aide-says-paid-actors-... or some of the sites themselves give you examples of where they have done it. https://www.rentacrowduk.co.uk/hire-a-crowd-case-studies/ Here are some companies that literally offer it as a service, I found these after doing a two minute google: https://www.envisagepromotions.co.uk/services/crowd-services... https://www.rentacrowduk.co.uk/ https://dreamsagency.co.uk/hire-a-crowd/ I am sure there are many others. |