[flounder3]

You must have worked in a very odd and isolated department. I never heard that rhetoric, even once, throughout my tenure. Nor have any of my old colleagues who still work there and are quite well known internally (notorious patents, features / tentpole DRI, etc).

[brcmthrowaway]

From your post history, you left Apple in 2018, so I doubt you have up to date knowledge.

[testfrequency]

Correct. You’re also assuming I have no friends…

[kridsdale1]

I was there 2010-2015 and I corroborate. The ambitions PM types were always quite critical of Woz, because they were all in on the Koolaid and he is not.