[kazinator]

The researcher used non-human animals; it worked on them.

The hypothetical part was only that it might also work on humans.

In any case, it seems the result was good enough as a clinical trial from the point of view of veterinary medicine, in regard to those specific types of animals.

[amy_petrik]

We really shouldn't be taking chemicals used on animals for veteran purposes and use them on humans too. For example, ivermectin. It's a drug meant for horses similar to another horse tranquilizer, ketamine. Can you imagine a human taking ivermectin or ketamine?!? I remember during COVID people were shooting up horse medicine and it was just really bad and upsetting, like these people were crazy. I wish Kamala had won and would have banned this horse medicines like ivermectin.

And now this whole methylene blue thing, RFK takes methylene blue. I mean, guys, this isn't even a horse veteran medicine, it's basically ink used to stain cells. I'm sorry, but everything that has an ink or pigmented color it, there is no way on earth it has a medicinal purpose. I mean. It's ink, nothing more.

[kazinator]

> We really shouldn't be taking chemicals used on animals for veteran purposes and use them on humans too.

While I totally agree in principle, the specific substance in question (methylene blue) is used on humans already (or should I add was used, at the time of the 1933 study), and for a related emergency purpose: fixing hemoglobin that is poisoned in a certain way, giving rise to a condition called methemoglobinemia.

> And now this whole methylene blue thing, RFK takes methylene blue.

I have no idea about that; I don't follow tabloid stuff.

Methylene blue isn't a now thing; it's been known for a hundred years or more.

> there is no way on earth it has a medicinal purpose

You might be in for a surprise when you do a 15 second web search on it.

RFK playing around with methylene blue doesn't mean anything. If he happens to ascribing to it properties it doesn't have and using it for situations for which it has not been proven, he's engaging in dangerous quackery.

People kill themselves with fentanyl, yet it's an important drug, and on the World Health's Organization list of Essential Medicines: https://list.essentialmeds.org/ (scroll down to the F section).

Oh, look what else is in this list of essential medicines! Methylthioninium chloride. A.k.a. methylene blue.

Yet here you are, claiming that there is no way it has a medicinal purpose?! But you're sure you are smarter than that RFK.

[phatskat]

> Can you imagine a human taking ivermectin or ketamine?!?

While I can only believe the ivermectin stuff because it happened (and the crossover of people who took it is pretty strong with people likely to think drinking bleach cures autism…), I 100% can believe people take ketamine because I have, and I will again - it’s fun!

Note to the curious: always do your homework. Start at Erowid and learn about any new drug, be sure to get reliably safe drugs, and the golden rule (via Rick and Morty during a Deadmau5 NYE of all places): you can always take more drugs, but you can never take less.