[readthenotes1]

Isn't that the no true Scotsman fallacy?

I'm overjoyed that you only encountered serious "engineers".

My professional experience is that at least 3/4 of the people riding software should not be because they write horrible code horribly.

But since I live in a place where you have to pass licensing exams to call yourself an "engineer", Maybe my experience is different than yours

[fusslo]

Hi, you did not understand what I wrote.

> I'm overjoyed that you only encountered serious "engineers".

Nowhere did I say this. At all. I said I havent heard 'works on my machine' said by serious engineers. That does not mean that I have ONLY met serious engineers.