[AstroBen]

How is investing in something that improves my productivity and output quality a downward career slope? Continuing to use a hand saw when there are power tools available seems like the downward slope..

If AI gets to a point where I'm fully able to be removed from auditing/coding positions.. well there won't be any coding positions left for anyone

> often don’t know what the Pr actually does

this is on them for being lazy. I thoroughly review the code AI produces. I don't commit it if I don't understand it

[nunez]

Analogizing AI to power tools is like analogizing building an IKEA bookshelf to outsourcing the job to a TaskRabbit.

Power tools automate manual hand movements, but you still need to follow the manual and know what fits where. Or you can spend money on a contractor from TaskRabbit to do it for you, perhaps badly.

LLMs make it faster to generate code, sure. Automating boilerplate code isn't too unlike using a drill to fit a screw.

But witting software writ large still requires thinking, something that the companies providing these services are heavily incentivized to remove.

[righthand]

> How is investing in something that improves my productivity and output quality a downward career slope?

> I'm not sure how long we'll need someone in the middle to actually review the code

You don’t think relying on a system you yourself are predicting will replace you isn’t investing in a downward slope. Wait until you find out Llms are helping suppress your wages.

> this is on them for being lazy.

Just like you gave into Llms you became lazy about writing code. That is the trend with Llms, to do less work as you’ve been pointing out.

You saving time the same thing as being lazy.

[AstroBen]

Not using LLMs doesn't make them go away. Whether they suppress wages or replace anyone is completely out of my control. Avoiding them just means I'd be producing below my potential

> you became lazy about writing code

I haven't, though. I still do the same amount of work except now I get more done. Now more of my energy goes into architecture, testing, specs, making sure it's built well instead of the lower level wiring things together

I use them for their perfect memory and as a creativity buddy, not for them to think for me

[ethics13]

>I haven't, though. I still do the same amount of work except now I get more done.

And the expectations will exceed you getting more done. You don't think your employer will try and squeeze even more out of you because of AI?

[AstroBen]

I'd rather be unemployed than work for someone like that

[righthand]

I have no goal to make them go away. My goal is to not use them because I don’t have to. Using Llms removes your agency to not use them. You become more reliant on using them.