[o11c]

> for whatever reason are no longer affiliated with the church of their youth.

This is the Internet, you're allowed to say "they are obsessed with unlimited drugs and weird sex things, far beyond what even the generally liberal society tolerates".

I'm increasingly convinced that every other part of "Rationalism" is just distraction or justification for those; certainly there's a conscious decision to minimize talking about this part on the Internet.

[twic]

I strongly suspect there is heterogeneity here. An outer party of "genuine" rationalists who believe that learning to be a spreadsheet or whatever is going to let them save humanity, and an inner party who use the community to conceal some absolute shenanigans.

[noqc]

No, I really mean atheists that crave religion.