[kmansm27]

Exactly! My ideal vision for the future is that agents will be doing all grunt work/implementation, and we'll just be guiding them.

Can't wait til I'm coding on the beach (by managing a team of agents that notify me when they need me), but it might take a few more model releases before we get there lol

[zmmmmm]

If you think you could do that on the beach, couldn't you do traditional software dev on the beach?

I actually think there's a chance it will shift away from that because it will shift the emphasis to fast feedback loops which means you are spending more of your time interacting with stakeholders, gathering feedback etc. Manual coding is more the sort of task you can do for hours on end without interruption ("at the beach").

[wiseowise]

> which means you are spending more of your time interacting with stakeholders, gathering feedback etc.

Jesus Christ, I really need to speed up development of my product. If this shifts to more meetings at wageslave, I’m going to kill myself.

[szundi]

How nice when just hung up with a demanding stakeholder who knows you can deliver a lot “instantly” you switch to your phone and your “agents” are just stuck into some weird stuff that they cannot debug.

That must be a nice situ on the beach.

[jdironman]

What happens is the status quo changes. Like what happened with Dev/Ops. If you find yourself with the time to lead agents on a beach retreat you might find yourself pulled into more product design / management meetings instead. AI/Dev like DevOps. Wearing more hats as a result. Maybe I'm wrong though.

[roozbeh18]

someone at the leadership is also thinking how he/she can lower head count by removing the agent master

[js4ever]

I did exactly that all this summer at the beach with Claude code. Future is already here!

[IncreasePosts]

What will you have to offer when coding is so easy at that point?

[kmansm27]

I still think that human taste is important even if agents become really good at implementing everything and everyone's just an idea guy. Counter argument: if agents do become really good at implementation, then I'm not sure if even human taste would matter if agents could brute force every possibility and launch it into the market.

Maybe I'll just call it a day and chill with the fam

[theappsecguy]

Seems like your vision is to let AI take over your livelihood. That’s an unusually chipper way to hand over the keys unless you have a lifetime of wealth stashed away.

[zaptheimpaler]

There is enormous money and effort in making AI that can do that, so if it's possible it is eventually going to happen. The only question is whether you're part of the group making the replacement or the group being replaced.

[filoleg]

It depends on what their livelihood is.

If their livelihood is solving difficult problems, and writing code is just the implementation detail the gotta deal with, then this isn’t gonna do much to threaten their livelihood. Like, I am not aware of any serious SWE (who actually designs complex systems and implements them) being genuinely worried about their livelihood after trying out AI agents. If anything, that makes them feel more excited about their work.

But if someone’s just purely codemonkeying trivial stuff for their livelihood, then yeah, they should feel threatened. I have a feeling that this isn’t what the grandparent comment user does for a living tho.

[theappsecguy]

Unfortunately C -suite’s don’t quite see eye to eye to your logical breakdown here from my experience.

[filoleg]

I neither know nor care what the C-suite at my company thinks, as long as they provide me the resources necessary to get my job done effectively.

And, so far, it seems like they are fairly understanding, as they are happy about the output of my work. After all, they aren't paying me per-line-of-code delivered, they are paying me to solve problems. If they think that an LLM can replace me fully, they are more than welcome to try it and see how it works out for them.

The entirety of my report chain is just former engineers (with some of them being pivotal to things like GMaps SDK for iOS and such), so I am not really worried about them testing this theory out in practice. And if they do and decide that an LLM can replace me, well, there are always other jobs out there I can take. From my personal experience at this company, I will be just fine.