[atombender]

This is exciting. The announcement says it will be open source. I really hope that this includes a functionally complete control plane so you realistically self-host.

I looked Neon recently, and it appears that it's designed as a SaaS product from the outset; while it is technically possible to self-host the individual components of the architecture, it does not look trivial, in large part because the control plane is closed source (and probably extremely specific to Neon's SaaS operations).

[benjiro]

Your probably better off with the original flavor (the guy that made Vitesse)

https://multigres.com/

He is making a open source version of porting Vitesse to Postgres.

[bddicken]

Why? Neki is built by the the engineers who have built, maintain, and operate massive-scale Vitess databases.

[kelp]

To add to this, if you look at the top 10 committers to Vitess over the last 12 months, 8 of them are helping with Neki in one way or another:

https://github.com/vitessio/vitess/graphs/contributors?from=...

[pjjpo]

Multigres is made by the guy that made Vitess, Sugu, before it became a startup. Doesn't mean it will be better, but I think it's why people have high hopes for both products.

[andrew_mason1]

there are also a significant number of previous vitess maintainers that have gone to supabase to work on it with him, so there's that.

it is not at all accurate to say that neki is made by "the team that brought you vitess" and that multigres is somehow not

[benjiro]

You forgot the read the original text above my response.

> I looked Neon recently, and it appears that it's designed as a SaaS product from the outset; while it is technically possible to self-host the individual components of the architecture, it does not look trivial, in large part because the control plane is closed source (and probably extremely specific to Neon's SaaS operations).

This is a good reason to go with multigres vs Neki (assuming Neki gets integrated into planetscale vs a standalone multigres ).

The two announcement's regarding Neki smells like its going to be proprietary or heavily tied into planetscale. See the gauging interest two months ago with sign ups. The current signing up ... Feel very marketing focused.

https://planetscale.com/blog/planetscale-for-postgres#nova-v...

> If your company runs Postgres at a significant scale and this is something that interests you, reach out.

> Sign up for the private preview of PlanetScale for Postgres waitlist here.

https://planetscale.com/blog/announcing-neki

> To stay up to date with the latest developments on Neki you can signup at neki.dev.

Where as the multigres via Supabase points to github repo's, the license, etc...

https://supabase.com/blog/multigres-vitess-for-postgres

> Like Vitess, Multigres will be open source using the same license: Apache 2. You can follow the repo here.

We shall see, but one is running and acting like pure open source project, and another is being announced how the marketing department of a proprietary software company works.

And the timing is interesting. Coincidence that both Neki and multigres got announced right at the same time? I am suspecting there has been some background drama going on with planetscale and supabase. But that is off-topic.

Like i said, and i agree with the poster i responded too: That Neki smells like its going to be tied into planetscale.

[fnord123]

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