[text0404]

alternatively, the US could just not dump billions of dollars in aid and weapons to those countries. social media companies could strengthen their content moderation systems against these kinds of state-sponsored attacks. no need to "act against" anyone.

[lenerdenator]

That would, again, mean not engaging with most countries on Earth, because most of them are, or have at least some qualities of, being ethnostates, religious states, or some other combination of putting one group above another in society based on immutable characteristics or characteristics of conscience.

If you're not Han in the PRC, they're going to try to "normalize" you in the direction of acting like you're Han. If you're not ethnic Russian, same with you in Russia. The only way to keep the former Yugoslavia from continuing to be a bloodbath was by essentially setting up ethnostates. And, yes, all of them use or have used violence to enforce these conditions.

[jordanb]

China is not a "han ethnostate" de-facto or de-jure.

Israel wasn't even an explicitly declared ethnostate between 2009 and 2017.

Additionaly, regardless of how China runs its affairs the truth is that ethnostates are highly Anti-American. It's fundamentally contradictory to our way of life. However China chooses to run its own affairs, the United States should not be providing such enormous amounts of support to a state that is run so contrarily to our own values as we do for Israel.

[lenerdenator]

> China is not a "han ethnostate" de-facto or de-jure.

Tell that to the Uyghurs they were re-educating.

> Israel wasn't even an explicitly declared ethnostate between 2009 and 2017.

They should go back to that then, but at the heart of it, you'd still have a mostly Jewish populace. Kind of like how the state that Hamas or Fatah would like to establish would be mostly Palestinian Arab.

> Additionaly, regardless of how China runs its affairs the truth is that ethnostates are highly Anti-American. It's fundamentally contradictory to our way of life. However China chooses to run its own affairs, the United States should not be providing such enormous amounts of support to a state that is run so contrarily to our own values as we do for Israel.

Most of the countries in the world are ultimately ethnostates or have political factions and geography seriously impacted by ethnic groupings. Don't believe me? Go suggest to about any European or Asian group that some other ethnic group get majority control of their land, resources, and government. They'll be reluctant at best.

[whatshisface]

PRC, Russia, Serbia... Isn't that a list of US current opponents on the world stage? If I was Israeli I would be hoping my country did not go down this path (and of course I say hoping because I wouldn't have the ability to prevent it.)