[tsvetkov]

Fascinating to see how agents are redefining what IDEs are. This was not really the case in the chat AI era. But as autonomy increases, the traditional IDE UI becomes less important form of interaction. I think those CLI tools have pretty good chance to create a new dev tools ecosystem. Creating a full featured language plugin (let alone a full IDE) for VSCode or Intellij is not for a faint-hearted, and cross IDE portability is limited. CLI tools + MCP can be a lot simpler, more composable and more portable.

[cheschire]

IDE UI should shift to focusing on catching agentic problems early and obviously, and providing drop dead simple rollback strategies, parallel survival-of-the-fittest solution generation, etc

[__loam]

My fundamental worry with this technology is that you all are going to seriously fuck up the development experience for those of us who feel the technology at the core of this stuff is not sufficient. Development efforts will focus on this work flow at the expense of good software.

[cheschire]

Yep, that's why my priority would be in pushing the weaknesses to the forefront and enabling us with maximum control over those weaknesses.

Old IDEs were built for the same purpose generally, but prioritized different weaknesses.