[qsort]

I'm the first to call out ridiculous behavior by AI companies but short of something massively below expectations this can't be bad for openai. GPT-5 is going to be positioned as a product for the general public first and foremost. Not everyone cares about coding benchmarks.

[nialv7]

llama 4 basically (arguably) destroyed Meta's LLM lab, and it wasn't even that bad of a model.

[sho_hn]

Did it? Could you summarize the highlights? Morale, brain drain, ...?

[benterix]

> massively below expectations

Well, the problem is that the expectations are already massive, mostly thanks to sama's strategy of attracting VC.