[KenSF]

In the real world, we have many businesses which will look at ones gov't issued ID, most bars for instance. We have other businesses which will record the information off ones ID, most dispensaries for instance. I will go into the first. I will not go into the second. Verifying my eligibility is one thing. Recording my data for later use is a very different thing. I can tell the difference in the real world because I can see the process. Online, it is impossible to tell. Providers can build a reputation for privacy, think Proton.

You say we are looking for solutions. There are better solutions, including privacy preserving solutions, which can work. We just don’t have any of those yet.

[kylecazar]

I agree, and I advocate for adopting such solutions. I'm definitely not a fan of sending my ID to an arbitrary 3rd party with no visibility into how it will be processed. I am confident that if verification becomes the norm, a good solution will become ubiquitous (whether that's Google's ZKP or something else).

But, dismissing the whole verification effort on principle because "it's the internet and it's inherently for adults" is silly and unrealistic, IMO (not that you were). It's just not the world we live in anymore, the internet is used by everyone, for everything, and we should build accordingly.

[baobun]

> a good solution will become ubiquitous (whether that's Google's ZKP or something else).

Believing that Google's solution will be truly ZK, interoperable, or good is similarly silly, unrealistic, and not the world we live in anymore. Unfortunately.