[W3zzy]

It is a flex that will result in great pushbacks. If my government feels the need to monitor all my communication without proper reason I know they're only a step away from using my words against me.

I will oppose any government that outlaws encryption and privacy. There are numerous accounts of peoples personal info being misused for crime. More than there are proven cases of encryption being used by criminals.

[integralid]

I'm not sure I was understood. I explicitly explained my stance on encryption at the beginning.

I neither have nor want to have the capability to spy on telegram users. But criminal groups use telegram as infrastructure all the time - for example telegram webhook used as a exfiltration method for stolen credentials.

Telegram refuses to cooperate in any way, for example to close the group chat exfiltrated credentials go to, or even to disable the webhook.

This is analogous to Facebook knowingly letting ISIS use it for terrorist attack coordination. You can't just operate a company and ignore every abuse report.

[frm88]

Is undermining encryption in private messaging the right way to go about these issues tho? If telegram's and Facebook's non-cooperation in persecution of crime is the issue, why not address the corporations with legislation up to and including an EU wide ban instead of violating the privacy of 450M people? Is there something I'm missing?

[W3zzy]

I wasn't challenging you. Sorry if that wasn't clear.