[BlackFly]

Yeah, those fatbikes are just the latest iteration of the old little scooters (bromfiets) with the small win of being more quiet. I feel like the size of them and the seating arrangement should enable them to legislate fat bikes as scooters while only catching a small number of modified pushbikes that the police would likely ignore when the cyclist isn't being a nuisance.

They'll definitely gain weight, it is quite easy to tell that they aren't exerting much effort during pedal assist.

[gibagger]

Yeah, very easy to spot if you pay a bit of attention to the lower back muscles. They are basically not being engaged.

Tire noise is enormous though. I think their tires are made / selected with this in mind, as young males often do like to get attention. Most e-scooters are way quieter than these ugly things.