[arathis]

I’m not in the US, so I don’t know what it’s like from the inside but from the outside it’s so comically obvious how straight up stupid and brazen trump and his cronies are that it beggars beleif.

How can so many be so gullible?

[rchaud]

They're not gullible. They are in full agreement with the leadership's desire to punish the "undesirables" in their society and purge the values they don't agree with. That they too will eventually suffer the consequences eventually is less urgent than knowing that the "others" feel threatened right here and now.

[cmurf]

It’s a cult.

But also, they’re being misled. Most non-Trumpers coddle, forgive in advance, and invite Trumper friends and family to the usual social functions. This is permission. It’s helping everyone normalize the depravity.

In a very real way there’s no conversation happening because one party has removed themselves from rationality and the other party has broadcast they don’t care.

There will need to be enormous amounts of pain to get either party to snap out of it.