[nixgeek]

A ton of EMR systems are cloud-hosted these days. There’s already patient data for probably a billion humans in the various hyperscalers.

Totally understand that approaches vary but beyond EMR there’s work to augment radiologists with computer vision to better diagnose, all sorts of cloudy things.

It’s here. It’s growing. Perhaps in your jurisdiction it’s prohibited? If so I wonder for how long.

[fineIllregister]

In the US, HIPAA requires that health care providers complete a Business Associate Agreement with any other orgs that receive PHI in the course of doing business [1]. It basically says they understand HIPAA privacy protections and will work to fulfill the contracting provider's obligations regarding notification of breaches and deletion. Obviously any EMR service will include this by default.

Most orgs charge a huge premium for this. OpenAI offers it directly [2]. Some EMR providers are offering it as an add-on [3], but last I heard, it's wicked expensive.

1: https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/covered-entities...

2: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/8660679-how-can-i-get-a-...

3: https://www.ntst.com/carefabric/careguidance-solutions/ai-do...

[dragonwriter]

> Most LLM companies might not even offer it.

I'm pretty sure the LLM services of the big general-purpose cloud providers do (I know for sure that Amazon Bedrock is a HIPAA Eligible Service, meaning it is covered within their standard Business Associate Addendum [their name for the Business Associate Agreeement as part of an AWS contract].)

https://aws.amazon.com/compliance/hipaa-eligible-services-re...

[fineIllregister]

Sorry to edit snipe you; I realized I hadn't checked in a while so I did a search and updated my comment. It appears OpenAI, Google, and Anthropic also offer BAAs for certain LLM services.

[linuxftw]

I worked a big health care company recently. We were using Azure's private instances of the GPT models. Fully industry compliant.

[londons_explore]

Even if it's possible, there is typically a lot of paperwork to get that stuff approved.

There might be a lot less paperwork to just buy 50 decent GPU's and have the IT guy self-host.