[claytongulick]

> But I’ll stand by my impression that a developer using ai tools will generate code at a perceptibly faster pace than one who isn’t.

And this is the problem.

Masterful developers are the ones you pay to reduce lines of code, not create them.

[kasey_junk]

Every. Single. Time. You say you get productivity gains from ai tools on the internet someone will tell you that you weren’t good at your job before the ai tooling.

Perhaps, start from the assumption that I have in fact spent a fair bit of time doing this job at a high level. Where does that mental exercise take you with regard to your own position on ai tools.

In fact, you don’t have to assume I’m qualified to speak on the subject. Your retort assumes that _everyone_ who gets improvement is bad at this. Assume any random proponent isn’t.

[bit1993]

I think what GP is saying is that in most cases generating allot of code is not a good thing. Every line of LLM generated code has to be audited because they are prone to hallucinations and auditing someone else's code is much more difficult and time consuming than auditing your own code. Allot of code also requires more maintenance.

[tptacek]

The comment is premised on the idea that Kasey either doesn't know what a "masterful developer" is or needs to be corrected back to it.

[claytongulick]

It's a commentary on one of the things I perceive as a flaw with LLMs, not you.

One of the most valuable qualities of humans is laziness.

We're constantly seeking efficiency gains, because who wants to carry buckets of water, or take laundry down to the river?

Skilled developers excel at this. They are "lazy" when they code - they plan for the future, they construct code in a way that will make their life better, and easier.

LLMs don't have this motivation. They will gleefully spit out 1000 lines of code when 10 will do.

It's a fundamental flaw.

[kasey_junk]

Now, go back and contemplate what my feedback means if I am well versed on Larry Wall-isms.