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by benjiro 324 days ago
> Toyota Corollas are exceptionally well-engineered cars. The thing is, they're engineered for convenience, reliability, and affordability.

Say that to the half a dozen recalls my 2007 Toyota Corolla had. The constant sensor issues. And a slew of other issues, like the very well know chain issues.

Well engineered is something that really does not fit with my 2007 Corolla. Yes, my 1992 Corolla was a tank, but not the "modern" 2007 version.

> affordability?

You mean the 33.000 euro that a base model Corolla now costs??? I think people have been living in the old corolla's mindset from the 90's because modern Corolla's are expensive cars.

Worst of all, its not even the good hybrid. A BYD SUV with 1080km actual road range, with full loaded electronics, solar roof, the works was 36.000 euro here. When a not big hatchback is that expensive, vs a freaking SUV...

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You sound very sad that your Corolla isn't good. I would get rid of it, if I were you.

However, 6 issues with a 20 year old car doesn't sound that bad to me.

Edit: By the way, you can easily get a 2023 Corolla for less than 23k euro.

Those are just the official recalls, not the stuff they know is wrong with the car, but never got a recall. Trust me, it was more issues then that.

In general, Toyota is known for their good engines. And the engine itself was indeed good, it did not have issues with oil burning after so many years. So the tolerances are very good.

It was the rest that showed a lot less quality control. The airbags alone was so problematic that they even had airbags going off by themselves (reason for 2 recalls).

Ironically, got a Opel for almost the same timeframe (both cars overlapped), and thing has been more reliable then Toyota. Brand reputation is just that, something from the past.

You never know if a good brand is going to release a less good car, or a bad brand, releases a good car. These days cars are just kitbashing as most brands are a mix of different brands, where parts are mixed between them. Your brand can be Citroen but the base can be Peugeot, the engine can be Renault, the electronics can be Citroën ... you get the point.

If I want to buy a car today, preferably electric, that is like the corollas of the 90s, what should I buy? Not having customer hostile features like DRM or anti repair anti features is a part of this.
Subarus are very reliable these days. They only have one EV model right now I think, but another is coming.