[zdragnar]

The meaning of words can change over time and across space.

The meaning of left and right in US politics encompasses more topics than the matter of who may legally own things.

Pretending that those referred to as left and right are all the same because the only true scottsman is Karl Marx is silly.

[stuaxo]

There's a whole bunch of socialism to the right of *!=) Marx and the left of classic liberalism.

Words have meaning, trying to characterise "far left" as some sort of US caricature of Blue haired liberal types is less than useful and only serves right wing outlets.

There is very little left wing discourse in the US.

[mullingitover]

GP was saying that there are hardly far left politicians, saying that the few that exist are Sanders/AOC/DSA.

I was just pointing out that even these are not actual socialists, they're Democratic Socialists of the stripe you find in the mainstream in a lot of staunchly capitalist European nations. There are definitely zero literal far-left politicians, objectively speaking.

Socialist/social democrat are two related but distinct concepts are confusing for those not versed in political science, but their definitions have certainly not changed: democratic socialists for example don't advocate for communal ownership or central planning. The actual policies put forward by DSA candidates in the US, viewed through a political science analysis, are vanilla liberal. The only thing making them 'far left' is that actual far right monied interests have systematically dragged the Overton Window into a place where "public figure performing the Nazi salute on the capitol steps" is "controversial, in some circles" rather than "immediately career-ending."

[nso]

The list i provided was of left wing politicians.

There are zero far left wing politicians in the US Congress. The far left is literally anti capitalist marxists.

[rob74]

Yes - the Overton window in the US has shifted so far right that a Nazi salute is more or less mainstream, whereas democratic socialists like Sanders/AOC are now "far left". And judges who dare block Trump's actions are, of course, "radical left lunatics" (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/federal-judge...).