[throwanem]

We appear to agree it sucks at everything and is better than nothing, which is why I have one in my satchel but not on my keyring. Why did that need so many words? Meanwhile, I haven't intentionally installed a Perl interpreter so far this decade.

[ubermonkey]

We don't really agree, though, because I don't think it sucks at ANYTHING.

It's pretty good at everything it does. Are there purpose built specialist tools that are better for many of the things it does? Sure! But the efficacy of a Swiss Army Knife shows that, most of the time, you don't need to bother chasing down the perfect screwdriver (e.g.) if there's just a loose screw to deal with.

[throwanem]

Oh. Spoken like someone who's never used a really good screwdriver.

Myself, I like Wiha's fullsize multibit one that I got in 2018 or so, first because it's an excellent, versatile, thoughtfully designed, and very repairable tool, and second because keeping it and one big flathead in my toolbag is all the screwdrivers I usually need around the house. Granted, that's about a 20-pound toolbag. But it's also everything I'll need in the 90+% home repair/maintenance case, along with my socket set ~99%, and I never have trouble finding it or anything that lives in it. (Unless I forget to put things back, of course. But that's on me.) Same for everything else a Swiss Army does, which is why there isn't one in my toolbag.

I don't really need to convince you, of course. I'd just hate to see anyone inadvertently misled into overspending on a broadly unsafe "all things to all people" social statement play, the exact equivalent in taste and quality of a Mont Blanc fountain pen, rather than invest the same money in more reasonably priced tools worth using. And what's on my keyring is a Leatherman Squirt.

[ubermonkey]

>Spoken like someone who's never used a really good screwdriver.

Again, no. I have a very fine set of tools available for jobs large enough when it'll matter.

You just seem really invested in the idea that the SAK sucks, when it just doesn't. It's entirely sufficient for most small jobs. That there exist BETTER options for larger jobs does not mean the SAK sucks.

>I'd just hate to see anyone inadvertently misled into overspending on a broadly unsafe "all things to all people" social statement play, the exact equivalent in taste and quality of a Mont Blanc fountain pen,

I have absolutely no idea what you mean to be saying with this sentence.

Are you arguing that Victorinox knives are expensive and dangerous? That's a wild thing to say. The one in my pocket was like $35, and it's safe as houses.

Are you arguing they're somehow equivalent to high-end fountain pens? That's even crazier, since perfectly delightful fountain pens exist at a fraction of the cost of a Mont Blanc (which, IME, is a pen that people who care more about brands than nibs buy).

Maybe take a breath, and try again?

[throwanem]

"Either I'm right or you're insane" isn't really worth the trouble to try to argue with. Have fun with that, I guess.

[ubermonkey]

LOL. Ok, buddy.