[perching_aix]

Pretty funny you mention Java 8 as a negative example, I remember it being widely heralded as a step in the right direction that was a long time coming and a breath of fresh air.

[CamouflagedKiwi]

I think they just mean that newer versions are further steps in that direction, not that Java 8 was a step the wrong way.

[earnestinger]

Yup. Java 1.8 is humongous leap to the right direction.