[jamil7]

The article loses impact due to the way the author keeps self-conciously mentioning how the "PHP haters" are wrong instead of just explaining the possible usecase for PHP better.

I've never really used it but it would have been somewhat useful to know why anyone would choose this language for a greenfield project in 2025, given the choices available. The reasons given are pretty unconvincing to me.

[woleium]

Php developers are easy to find and cheaper than the alternatives, that alone seals the deal for many businesses

[DonHopkins]

I wouldn't trust a PHP developer who wasn't able to figure out how to become a JavaScript developer.

[woleium]

… who are also relatively inexpensive and easy to find?

[tracker1]

I often wish it weren't the case as much. There's a massive cassum the size of the Grand Canyon between the majority of JS devs and good JS devs that understand the language, and have a good grasp of software craftsmanship. And that doesn't mean stuffing JS based projects with "Enterprise" patterns that don't make sense in the platform being used.

[hajile]

JS devs who started around or just after covid are everywhere. JS devs with 10+ years of experience are a small fraction of the market at this point. JS devs with any number of years of experience who also understand JS (or even just CS in general) well are a minute fraction of JS devs.

[spdionis]

Normally PHP developers are competent in Javascript but try to avoid it due to the clusterfuck that javascript is, especially the ecosystem.

[woleium]

‘laughs in left-pad’

[steelbird]

Not everyone wants to become a JavaScript developer.

[DonHopkins]

Yet they became a PHP developer. Go figure.

[resource_waste]

But I can deploy a decent sized Laravel app in about 2 days... I would need to learn the javascript equivalent.