[impossiblefork]

I don't understand how you can see it as okay from the point of view of European culture though.

Age verification requires treating a website, not as some random person, but as a platform which has control of content and some responsibility. Age verification requires giving websites information that they should not have.

Surely the European perspective should be that it is not Reddit's business whether I am 50 or 15. That they are just a website and should not care who I am and should not have that information.

Furthermore, this violent images are reality. It should be possible to discuss war in public, and use first-hand information and discuss horrible pictures in detail.

[profstasiak]

it is societies business to limit certain illegal activities both online and offline.

Most countries including USA have Indecent Exposure laws, prohibiting women for example from flashing their breasts on the street.

Yet somehow online adult women are able to "flash" homemade videos of them making sex with multiple partners, and you somehow think it's ok for children age 11 to view this with no responsibility on reddit's part?

Also most countries limit what children can do. It's illegal to drink even when you are 20 in USA. Why do we think children are mature enough when they are 11 to view unmoderated usergenerated content on tiktok? Many made by 18+ people driven by commercial interest and many of these videos dangerous for children (for example many challanges, where kids die after trying to do them).

Obviously one can have this kind of naive liberalism view, that anything goes. I personally don't and that's why I shared my comment.

[impossiblefork]

I'm not a liberal, but I believe that democracy requires a free public conversation.

Combat videos are not pornography.

[JohnFen]

> Obviously one can have this kind of naive liberalism view, that anything goes.

Very few people think this.

The issue isn't "anything goes", the issue is the expansion of surveillance. There is no way that I'm willing to subject myself to that. If that's a requirement for using a web site, then that web site is not suitable for me, so these laws make the web even smaller than it has already become.