[Ballas]

> Counter fact: In our city district, which is the richest and biggest district of our 600k developed city, we decided to turn off the street lights at night on purpose to help with sleeping better.

To me that seems like a really alien solution. What about closing the curtains?

[rurban]

I was in the prep-meeting for that decision. We don't like curtains. We don't like wasting energy. We don't like light pollution. We prefer peaceful nights

[seszett]

Turning the lights on and closing the curtains to block it seems the really alien solution to me.

If you don't want the lights, why not just turn them off?

It's really common in many cities in France too, also in the countryside to reduce disruption for bats in particular.

[Ballas]

Where I'm from moonlight on it's own will disrupt my sleep frequently enough that even if my neighbor did not forget his back light on, I would still sleep with my blockout curtains closed.

When it comes to driving, I would definitely prefer they keep the street lights on, for the increased visibility/safety.