[rogerrogerr]

Oh great, where can I buy a non-Mac with the same performance, battery life, thermals, weight, premium materials, and a trackpad that doesn’t feel like styrofoam coated in oil?

Since you say the competition has caught up, I assume it’ll be easy to send an Amazon link to the evidence.

[izacus]

In the nearby store stocking latops, tablets and phones. Your ignorance is not reality and we're not here to feed you examples for you to move goalposts.

[rogerrogerr]

_One_ example is too much to ask for? That's pretty telling. This entire thread has not one link to a competing product, just people insisting they exist.

[worthless-trash]

Not OP but that's the thing right, you've talked a lot about feels which means there will never be an answer that overcomes the emotion built in your head.

I wonder what it would take to win you over, and i don't mean the rational you, which i'm sure you can justify, i mean the irrational 'i'm in love with the product' you.

[rogerrogerr]

It’d take these very objective things:

- 7+ hour battery life while running a bunch of Docker containers and IDEs, at the same screen brightness nits I run my MacBook at.

- Those things run not-perceptively-slower than on my Apple hardware

- No perceptible fan noise while doing the above

- The chassis does not creak when I pick it up from one corner

- Does not weigh more than double my MacBook

I’ll even relax the trackpad requirement and allow a 60Hz HiDPI screen instead of the 120Hz screen my MacBook from four years ago drives while doing all of the above.

Is there anything that can check those boxes?

[worthless-trash]

This is a much more definable list, no feels there. (I don't know.. as am not hunting for a similar option, although I probably will be in the future).

> - The chassis does not creak when I pick it up from one corner

This would be an INSTANT 'nope' from me.

[rogerrogerr]

Every Fortune 500 company I’ve worked for (three so far) has sent me a Windows “dev machine” laptop with huge RAM and an i7-whatever processor… and they all creak if you pick them up from a corner. And the screen hinges all make weird sounds.

It’s not, like, a usability concern, but it’s something I’m definitely willing to fork over a couple hundred bucks to not feel every day.

[tracerbulletx]

"A lot" being in one of six items, specifically about an element that you touch and quality is generally judged by how it feels