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by Mawr 317 days ago
$32k = 27.5k€, and if we include the insurance numbers you provided: $27.5k = 23.5k€

> waiters make more in America

By apparently 1.5k€ per year? Not a strong argument as it stands and we haven't even begun talking about the lifestyle and workplace differences between the two countries.
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reissbaker 316 days ago
Waiters in the U.S. make more, due to tips, despite the U.S. having a lower minimum wage. Do you think American waiters want to make $2k/year less? That's nearly 10% of their income.

And that's before even factoring in the tax benefits, which is exactly what this article is about! No tax on tips means nearly all of that income is untaxed. French waiters pay 11% taxes, and British ones are in a 20% tax bracket. The difference widens even further.

Tips allow American waiters to earn more, and no tax on tips makes them take home even more. Hand-wringing about how the American system pays less than the European one is innumerate.

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micromacrofoot 316 days ago
most of that income is already untaxed, the american tax system is progressive

no tax on tips reduces pressure for employers to support higher minimum wages, that's why the restaurant lobby supports it

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reissbaker 314 days ago
No, the bottom rate in the American tax system is 10%, it's not untaxed... And that's only for income up to $11k, so the median American waiter is actually in the next bracket up (12%) for the majority of their income (they get $11k at 10%, and $21k at 12%). Similarly, the bottom rate in France is 11%, and is not untaxed. The UK has a 0% bottom rate, but it jumps to 20% well before you get to waiter wages.

No tax on tips will positively affect American waiter wages at basically every level. It's pretty simple math.

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