[deadbabe]

You're just feeding into western propaganda. Yes North Korean people are poor and there's tons of inequality but they are still real people. They are not in a constant war being bombed and tortured endlessly. They tend to farms, chat with friends, make jokes, feel pain and joy, they do what they can. I know that sounds like literal hell to a tech obsessed population that has to filter everything through the lens of social media, but for many people this is just life.

A lot of North Koreans probably don't even think about the government, it just has always existed and always will exist to them, they don't think about things being anther way because it won't be, so they just get on with it. It's like the people who believe propaganda that America has turned into a hell hole now under Trump where people have no rights or opportunity and have to live in fear of mass shootings or being kidnapped by ICE everyday. For the vast majority of American's that just not accurate at all. Touch grass.

[thomassmith65]

  They are not in a constant war

North Korean soldiers have been fighting and dying in Ukraine this year to support Russia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_involvement_in_th...

[dh2022]

The only bad things in the daily NK life you mentioned are poverty and inequality (more about that below [0]). You did not mention famine, physical oppression, lack of healthcare, censorship-all of which are well documented. I am afraid it is not me who is pushing some type of propaganda…

[0] about inequality in communist countries- these countries had much less inequality than western countries. Almost everyone was equally poor. In my home country of Romania the top 100 level apparatchiks (people who rworked directly with Nicolas Ceausescu) had the life style of a surgeon or wealthy dentist in the west: they had a “villa” with 3-4 bedrooms in the Primaverii neighbourdhood and a cottage somewhere. They still had to drive their own Romanian Dacia car. They had good heating and the electrical blackouts did not happen in their neighborhood. They had access to special stores to buy food( they did not wear western clothing). The rest 99.99% of Romanian people were all equally poor: they lined up at the same food queues, lived in the same cold apartments, lacked electricity and medicines equally, drank the same yellow/ brown tap water, listened to the same 2 or 3 western radio stations broadcasting in Romania, etc…

Stalin and the members of his governments also did not live lavishly: Stalin always wore a military coat and all through the 80s the Kremlin looked as drab as ever. His dacha had 4 bedrooms and two floors.

Compare this inequality vs what has been going on in the west. Wealthy people in the west own islands: both Google guys, JP Morgan, the Bush family. They own not just 1 yacht, but another one to follow along with their help on the summer Mediterranean milk-run. They own not just one mansion, but multiple mansions.

I want to conclude this long post by saying that under communism I was personally aware of this difference between the inequality in the west and the equality in communist Romania. And that once Romania overthrew their dictator and inequality exploded I personally felt much better. Sure, 2 or 3 of my classmates started driving to high school in their BMWs-and I spent all of high school in the same patched up jacket. The rich boys had their group physically close and yet separated from us. They were sure to tell girls how much their latest gizmo costed or how big the disco bill from previous night was. Of course they did that in front of poor guys like myself(labagii) All of which is not nice at all. But at least now I had food, heat and electricity-and a chance to leave for better places. I would take this trade-off today just as eagerly as I took it in Dec 89.

[nec4b]

>> about inequality in communist countries- these countries had much less inequality than western countries.

Maybe some, while others had much higher inequality. E.g. Tito lived like a king. Not only did he amass huge private fortune, he also used state owned means for his private pleasure. I think it was very similar for Ceausescu and other dictators.

[dttze]

So you have no proof, and are just repeating propaganda, with a bonus anti communist rant. NK isn’t Eastern Europe.

[subscribed]

Every single person which was raised up in the USSR-occupied country, who lived through the collapse of the Soviet Union and then in their independent countries, can repeat this story.

Mine's basically verbatim.

There are books about it, you know.

[dh2022]

The facts are mentioned are well documented and available on Wikipedia. You can google them yourself. My “rant” was actually an explanation of how communist countries had low levels of inequality.

Speaking about proof-where is yours? Your extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence…