[Workaccount2]

Losing weight is done in the kitchen, not the gym.

In fact exercise makes you crazy hungry, which sabotages tons of people's weight loss efforts.

It's better to lose weight, learn how your body and calories work, and then start implementing gym work.

[doug_durham]

I can't imaging losing weight consistently without exercise. Diet is most important. However even for the most obsessed of us counting calories is difficult to get right all of the time. Muscle mass consumes calories and exercise creates a deficit. Both provide margin that help account for calorie counting mistakes. I find that exercise forms a virtuous cycle in dieting. If I go on a 500 calorie bike ride that's 500 more calories I can eat that day.

[Workaccount2]

That's not quite what I am saying. You need to learn about calories and build a proper intuition about them before really getting into exercising. Otherwise you end up easily out eating what you burn.

I have known way too many people who regularly exercise but still cannot lose weight. The problem they have is that thry burn 500 calories exercising, and then go unknowingly eat 900 calories because they exercised.

[Xss3]

You need to learn how to handle hunger. To control your own urges. Once you do, dieting becomes easy, the only part that sucks is the low energy and irritability.

Intermittent fasting is a great teacher in this regard.

[CooCooCaCha]

I’ve actually found running decreases my appetite.

[galangalalgol]

While you are running or just in general? The former makes sense, but the latter is weird. Telling an obese person to run also makes orthopedic doctors cringe. Swimming or strength training are a lot safer for their joints. I personally find regular running makes me super hungry for anything and everything. Making sure what is at hand is healthy is critical for me.

[CooCooCaCha]

It’s normal for people to feel less hungry after an intense run. Not everybody all the time but it’s normal.

You’re stuff about obese people and joints isn’t relevant to this discussion on hunger.