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by A_D_E_P_T 317 days ago
It's hard to prove a negative. Can you show us an example of anything like what's happening at UCLA (collective punishment of an entire institution) or an example of an individual professor being harshly penalized or sanctioned for expressing personal political opinions?
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FirmwareBurner 317 days ago
Don't spin this around, what I asked you is not a negative.

People here argued that the US is fascist because in academia you can't get away with breaking governments rules getting you defunded and pointing at Germany for being superior in this regard.

So then I asked for proof that in other countries you can get away in academia with breaking the government's rules and not get defunded. It really is that simple.

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davrosthedalek 317 days ago
That's not what people have complained about. People complained about that in the US a government rule seems to be "don't criticize the government".

What about Christian Drosten who criticized a lot of the Corona decisions, Jan Boehmermann who is very critical but still employed by state-financed TV. Fridays for Future?

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FirmwareBurner 317 days ago
> Jan Boehmermann who is very critical but still employed by state-financed TV.

What did he criticize? Did he ever criticize all the crimes due to illegal migrants? Of course not because that's not allowed by the state.

He is just a government mouthpiece acting like a jester to give people the illusion that the government allows criticism, but he's not a proper critic of the government, as those are banned.

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A_D_E_P_T 317 days ago
It's hard to prove what you're asking because it's intrinsically not newsworthy -- whereas the reverse is. Surely if it's so bad in Germany, you should be able to dig up an example or two?
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margalabargala 317 days ago
> So I asked for proof that in other countries you can get away with breaking the government's rules.

Other countries like the way the US used to be 15 years ago? Is your argument really "other people don't have rights, therefore we shouldn't either"?

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card_zero 317 days ago
I agree that that was the opposite of proving a negative. The difficult thing would be demonstrating nobody ever did x.
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