[andsoitis]

I don’t disagree. My point is that there are good ideas from both sides and there are poor ideas from both sides.

We’d be much better off if we can judge those ideas and sort the bad from good, rather than who they come from.

[miltonlost]

id love to know some of the good ideas from republicans, because for the past like 50 years or so, nearly every one has been a disaster or discriminatory

[AnimalMuppet]

Here's where I think the bulk of the US population is:

- They're in favor of giving asylum to those who really deserve it (yeah, I'm sweeping a huge amount under the rug of the word "deserve"), but they're not in favor of "open borders" or large numbers of people coming here not through the legal process.

- They're in favor of equal opportunity and helping those who are downtrodden, but not in favor of "white guilt" or hiring/admission quotas.

- They're in favor of giving someone a break, but not in favor of giving criminals an infinite number of breaks (whether violent criminals or just shoplifters).

When the Democrats won in 2020, they took that victory as an endorsement of everything they believed in. It wasn't. It was a declaration that we didn't believe in where Trump wanted to take us.

When the Republicans won in 2024, they took it as an endorsement of everything Trump stood for, and everything he will decide to stand for in the future. It wasn't. It was a vote against the Democrats implementing everything they wanted to over the last four years.

In fact, it's not just the Republicans who make that mistake. I keep reading "you voted for this". Well, not exactly - there are a bunch of people who voted against open borders, but did not vote for militarized thugs grabbing people off the street based on skin color. (Yes, I know, their vote enabled that. My point is that their intent was not that at all, but only to vote against an open border.)

The bulk of the population doesn't want the Democratic platform or the Republican platform. They want some kind of sanity, avoiding the extremes of both sides.

(You say that the Republicans only have extremes? Not so. They also have "stop doing what the Democrats are doing". In some cases, that's not a bad idea.)

[estearum]

You're describing mainstream Democratic policies.

There is not a single national-level Democratic politician who advocates for open borders. If there is, please tell us who.

The feeling of an open border is due to a confluence of our asylum laws, the Constitution, and a surge in relative desirability of the United States vis-a-vis the rest of the world. The President cannot directly change any of these factors.

The reason it feels like some of that has changed is because we have a President who is flouting our asylum laws [1] and the Constitution [2], having the net effect of making our country less relatively desirable [3]

[1]: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/court-limits-trump-asylum-crack...

[2]: https://www.gwlr.org/kilmar-abrego-garcia/

[3]: https://abcnews.go.com/US/american-dream-migration-us-slows-...

In any case, did you identify any good GOP policy ideas here?

[miltonlost]

Thats so many words and not a single Republican policy? did you reply to the wrong question?