[simianparrot]

Elon Musk is working towards getting humanity to Mars in the low chance Earth becomes uninhabitable, and he'll never live to see the Mars dream become a reality even if everything goes as planned.

But I guess that doesn't fit the common narratives about a man that isn't a cartoon but a flawed human with strengths and weaknesses.

This is why we don't hear of great men anymore: We only hear about them when they're long dead and their transgressions forgiven and their strengths raised to a pedestal unattainable by real live human beings.

[blackoil]

Goals and means. No matter what end goal is, if it requires eugenics (hyperbolic example) to reach there, people will resist.

[sussmannbaka]

He is not doing that.

[travisgriggs]

Amen. Mankind is not going to Mars as an escape route. Elon uses this as a way of generating a vision/dream.

When mankind makes serious progress to any of a) living at the poles in scale b) living underwater at scale c) living subterranean (underground) at scale, get back to me and we can talk about offworld habitation (Mars, Venus, or Luna). All of these are hard enough, and provide mitigation against various disasters, at some level. They're hard enough problems to solve as it is.

[simianparrot]

So you claim contrary to interviews and public reporting and Wikipedia that no, he isn’t working towards that until he gets us there.

EDS is a thing, I guess. Sad to see on HN of all places.

[simianparrot]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Mars_colonization_pro...

[antisthenes]

I'm surprised this kind of garbage is allowed on Wikipedia. The whole article reads like a PR statement, constantly stating what is "possible" or "planned", but never any actual progress in terms of missions.

Basically lots of forward-looking hot air like a financials press release for shareholders.

Utter nonsense.

[coldtea]

Parent didn't say he doesn't pay lip service to it, or doesn't make bullshit timelines and promises.

[vntok]

One can be both "working toward" a goal and "making bullshit timelines and promises" at the same time, those things are completely orthogonal.

[simianparrot]

Parent didn't say _anything_ and frankly doesn't really meet HN's criteria for good discourse. All it said at time of my reply was "He is not doing that".

He is doing that. Whether you believe him, or whether he succeeds, or whether he's lying, is an entirely different conversation and something I can't _prove_. All I can prove is that there are public claims he is doing it, and he keeps saying it in interviews.

[Imustaskforhelp]

There are places on earth where life is unhabitable and on mars its absolutely nonsense really.

But maybe its a dunning kruger effect, I asked an actual aerospace engineer and he said its doable but he's a bit of an elon fan too, and I did read on HN an article on how life on mars is impossible..

Still, it would be most likely be very bad life on mars compared to earth but nope, we all are ready to burn our earth so damn quickly... and listen Elon has a band around him and you could say that he was a salesman in the sense that he had a lot of hype around him which inadvertedly helped tesla

But one shouldn't live life on rocks floating in water [hype] since that might just be a dream or you are crashing down.

And he's a little pathetic in the sense that maybe when I think of all, that could actually be done to help people and with all the influence he had, he fulfilled his agenda really but the agenda was never to better us humans but to get him more power..

So lets call spade a spade shall we?

[coldtea]

>Elon Musk is working towards getting humanity to Mars

Sure