[chromanoid]

Great article! I share the experience mentioned in the article, LLMs facilitate a head-on interaction with any topic. It is similar to instructional YouTube videos (that imo were already transformative) but with the ability to ask detailed questions. And this is what becomes better with each iteration. When creative communities finally settle down on generative AI there will be not just a plethora of AI slop, but so much highly creative never seen before content. It might lead to a new golden age of indie low budget movie productions.

[exasperaited]

There’s already a new golden age of indie low budget movies. Those guys will not use AI to generate significant parts of their content, because it defeats the point of making an indie movie at all.

I never cease to be shocked at how little tech people think of what creative people do and why they do it.

[chromanoid]

You seem to have an agenda here. I am sure there are many many visions of special effects and story arcs that could never be realized because of not being able to pull it off. This will change now. Green screens and sophisticated SFX tech will not be necessary to create fantastical images. You may call these kind of movies low brow entertainment but I am very curious to see indie movie interpretations of my favorite litrpg books.

[exasperaited]

An agenda? I just give a shit about the creative people (indie filmmakers, photographers, artists, actors, models) I know, and I fail to see what AI brings them that their creativity does not already; special effects are such a tiny part of filmmaking, for example.

I don’t mean to say I don’t think there are any uses but I think the main misunderstanding here is that what holds indie filmmakers back isn’t access to technology, generally.

[chromanoid]

Well, at least I assume that currently indie movies are also somewhat defined by budget and technical limitations. With GenAI you will be able to film an action scene with your smartphone in an empty warehouse that will later look like an authentic full street in Medieval Bagdad. GenAI will remove constraints. Constraints that may have led to creativity by themselves, but those constraints also led to constraints in audience and artistic outcome. Imagination will be the limit. And I don't think we will need labels like "organic" to make collaborative efforts with actual actors more accepted than AI only productions, because good actors bring more to the table than just their face and stature.

[exasperaited]

> GenAI will remove constraints.

I think this really hits on the difference in our understanding because constraints are what cause actual creativity and art to happen.

A lack of constraints is why big-budget movies are so tedious. Lower budget movies are better because of their constraints.

[chromanoid]

I totally see that. But I think it's time for new constraints that are less tied to money and more to the imagination of the creators.

It will hopefully lead to a democratization of previously expensive settings (e.g. historic, fantastical, large scale events) etc. Many indie movies still have huge budgets and need some kind of sponsor. Now we will hopefully see a wonderful mix of hobbyist, semi-professional and professional fully independent setups that tell stories without worrying about financial risks that are connected to certain forms of artistic expression.

I don't think it is helpful to gatekeep movie making with arbitrary requirements regarding AI usage nor do I believe that the requirement for patrons or state sponsorships that is prevalent in indie movie making are a good thing regarding the current neo-feudal and authoritarian currents.

[Planktonne]

Jaws is an iconic horror film partly because the mechanical shark kept breaking, forcing them to do more with atmosphere and less with animatronics.

[ants_everywhere]

Of course they will.

The world is full of creative people and some of them will make movies with AI. Those are indie film makers.